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Somebody, for the love of dog, say something!
Kira Posted: Tue Jun 3 13:28:40 2008 Post | Quote in Reply  
  I can't take it anymore!

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Mark Posted: Tue Jun 3 15:29:28 2008 Post | Quote in Reply  

addi Posted: Tue Jun 3 16:47:15 2008 Post | Quote in Reply  
  having to read a bunch of marketing stuff for a new position I'm taking. My god...somebody shoot me.
I would have made a terrible business major in college.

ya know if it was practical and feasible to do I seriously think I'd drop everything, get a small farm outside of the city, and become an organic farmer..with maybe a few pigs, goats, chickens, and hemp plants on the side...and a small harum of middle eastern women..that had clean bodies and dirty minds.
Ahhhh..this would be nice

Kira Posted: Tue Jun 3 17:04:15 2008 Post | Quote in Reply  
  I'm taking my new kayak to the lake. Everybody cross your fingers I don't drown. Or that I do, depending on your feelings.

Kira Posted: Tue Jun 3 17:04:43 2008 Post | Quote in Reply  
  Addi every time you post I think you're Libra!

addi Posted: Tue Jun 3 17:34:08 2008 Post | Quote in Reply  
  Kira said:
>Addi every time you post I think you're Libra!

i think I was a woman in a past life

okay..I'll change my avatar pic soon

beetlebum Posted: Tue Jun 3 17:35:35 2008 Post | Quote in Reply  
  Kira said:
>Addi every time you post I think you're Libra!

me too! addi had me going until i read about the small harem... then i knew there was no way in hell it was libra. :)


addi Posted: Tue Jun 3 18:17:04 2008 Post | Quote in Reply  
  here's a clue for you silly silly women...
right above the posters avatar pic in bold black letters is the username of the poster. If the photo they use confuses you then it's a good idea to look slightly above it and read the name. That's usually a good indicator of who wrote it : )

Mesh Posted: Tue Jun 3 23:37:44 2008 Post | Quote in Reply  
  I'm having lots of fun for my birfday this weekend.

You're all invited.

Except for Mesh.

Ahriman Posted: Wed Jun 4 06:12:44 2008 Post | Quote in Reply  
  Soooo evrybody buys ddrinks for the saute cook. By everybody, I mean the servers that want to be on his godo side. Psha bitches. I win.

DanSRose Posted: Wed Jun 4 10:00:52 2008 Post | Quote in Reply  
  Obama '08!

Kira Posted: Wed Jun 4 10:16:47 2008 Post | Quote in Reply  
  I'm RSVPing Mesh. What should I get you?

ifihadahif Posted: Wed Jun 4 13:37:55 2008 Post | Quote in Reply  
  I found this through StumbleUpon, I can't vouch for it's accuracy, but it's an interesting story.

What Goes Around, Comes Around
His name was Fleming, and he was a poor Scottish farmer. One day, while trying to make a living for his family, he heard a cry for help coming from a nearby bog. He dropped his tools and ran to the bog. There, mired to his waist in black muck, was a terrified boy, screaming and struggling to free himself. Farmer Fleming saved the lad from what could have been a slow and terrifying death.

The next day, a fancy carriage pulled up to the Scotsman's sparse surroundings. An elegantly dressed nobleman stepped out and introduced himself as the father of the boy Farmer Fleming had saved.

"I want to repay you," said the nobleman. "You saved my son's life."

"No, I can't accept payment for what I did," the Scottish farmer replied, waving off the offer.

At that moment, the farmer's own son came to the door of the family hovel.

"Is that your son?" the nobleman asked.

"Yes," the farmer replied proudly.

"I'll make you a deal. Let me take him and give him a good education. If the lad is anything like his father, he'll grow to a man you can be proud of."

And that he did. In time, Farmer Fleming's son graduated from St.Mary's Hospital Medical School in London, and went on to become known. Throughout the world as the noted Sir Alexander Fleming, the discoverer of Penicillin.

Years afterward, the nobleman's son was stricken with pneumonia. What saved him? Penicillin.

The name of the nobleman? Lord Randolph Churchill. His son's name? Sir Winston Churchill.

Someone once said: What goes around comes around.

Billy Pilgrim Posted: Wed Jun 4 13:51:04 2008 Post | Quote in Reply  
  Alexander Fleming
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Sir Alexander Fleming

Alexander Fleming
Born 6 August 1881
Lochfield, Scotland, UK
Died 11 March 1955 (aged 73)
London, England, UK
Nationality Scottish
Occupation biologist and pharmacologist
Spouse Sarah Marion (dec.), Amalia Vourekas
Children Robert Fleming
Parents Hugh and Grace Fleming
Sir Alexander Fleming (6 August 1881 – 11 March 1955) was a Scottish biologist and pharmacologist. Fleming published many articles on bacteriology, immunology, and chemotherapy. His best-known achievements are the discovery of the enzyme lysozyme in 1922 and the discovery of the antibiotic substance penicillin from the fungus Penicillium notatum in 1928, for which he shared the Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine in 1945 with Florey and Chain.[1]

Contents [hide]
1 Birth and education
2 Work before penicillin
3 Accidental discovery
4 Purification to a stable form and industrial scale production
5 Antibiotics
6 Fable
7 Death and legacy
8 Accolades
9 See also
10 Other books
11 References
12 External links

Birth and education

Faroe Islands stamp commemorating Fleming
St.Mary's Hospital in London.Fleming was born on 6 August 1881 at Lochfield farm near Darvel in East Ayrshire, Scotland. He was the third of the four children of Hugh Fleming (1816 – 1888) from his second marriage to Grace Stirling Morton (1848 – 1928), the daughter of a neighbouring farmer. Hugh Fleming had four surviving children from his first marriage. He was 59 at the time of his second marriage, and died when Alexander (known as Alex) was seven.

Fleming went to Loudoun Moor School and Darvel School, and then for two years to Kilmarnock Academy. After working in a shipping office for four years, the twenty-year-old Fleming inherited some money from an uncle, John Fleming. (For the story about his father rescuing a boy, see the section fable). His older brother, Tom, was already a physician and suggested to his younger sibling that he follow the same career, and so in 1901, the younger Alexander enrolled at St Mary's Hospital, London. He qualified for the school with distinction in 1906 and had the option of becoming a surgeon.

By chance, however, he had been a member of the rifle club (he had been an active member of the Territorial Army since 1900). The captain of the club, wishing to retain Fleming in the team suggested that he join the research department at St Mary's, where he became assistant bacteriologist to Sir Almroth Wright, a pioneer in vaccine therapy and immunology. He gained M.B. and then B.Sc. with Gold Medal in 1908, and became a lecturer at St. Mary's until 1914. On 23 December 1915, Fleming married a trained nurse, Sarah Marion McElroy of Killala, Ireland, who died in 1949. Their only child, Robert, became a general medical practitioner. After Sarah's death, Fleming married Dr. Amalia Koutsouri-Vourekas, a Greek colleague at St. Mary's, on 9 April 1953; she died in 1986.

Fleming served throughout World War I as a captain in the Army Medical Corps, and was mentioned in dispatches. He and many of his colleagues worked in battlefield hospitals at the Western Front in France. In 1918 he returned to St.Mary's Hospital, which was a teaching hospital. He was elected Professor of Bacteriology in 1928.

Work before penicillin

A single crystal of lysozyme.After the war, Fleming actively searched for anti-bacterial agents having witnessed the death of many soldiers from septicemia resulting from infected wounds. Unfortunately antiseptics killed the patients' immunological defences more effectively than they killed the invading bacteria. In an article he submitted for the medical journal The Lancet during World War I, Fleming described an ingenious experiment, which he was able to conduct as a result of his own glass blowing skills, in which he explained why antiseptics were actually killing more soldiers than infection itself during World War I. Antiseptics worked well on the surface, but deep wounds tended to shelter anaerobic bacteria from the antiseptic agent, and antiseptics seemed to remove beneficial agents produced that actually protected the patients in these cases at least as well as they removed bacteria, and did nothing to remove the bacteria that were out of reach. Sir Almroth Wright strongly supported Fleming's findings, but despite this, most army physicians over the course of WWI continued to use antiseptics even in cases where this worsened the condition of the patients.

In 1922, Fleming discovered lysozyme, the "body's own antibiotic", and that it has a weak anti-bacterial property.[2]

Accidental discovery

Miracle cure."When I woke up just after dawn on September 28, 1928, I certainly didn't plan to revolutionize all medicine by discovering the world's first antibiotic, or bacteria killer," Fleming would write later, "But I guess that was exactly what I did." [3].

By 1928, Fleming was investigating the properties of staphylococci. He was already well-known from his earlier work, and had developed a reputation as a brilliant researcher, but quite a careless lab technician; he often forgot cultures that he worked on, and his lab in general was usually in chaos. After returning from a long holiday, Fleming noticed that many of his culture dishes were contaminated with a fungus, and he threw the dishes in disinfectant. But subsequently, he had to show a visitor what he had been researching, and so he retrieved some of the unsubmerged dishes that he would have otherwise discarded. He then noticed a zone around an invading fungus where the bacteria could not seem to grow. Fleming proceeded to isolate an extract from the mould, correctly identified it as being from the Penicillium genus, and therefore named the agent penicillin.

He investigated its positive anti-bacterial effect on many organisms, and noticed that it affected bacteria such as staphylococci, and indeed all Gram-positive pathogens (scarlet fever, pneumonia, meningitis, diphtheria) but unfortunately not typhoid or paratyphoid, for which he was seeking a cure at the time. It also affected gonorrhea, although this condition is caused by a Gram-negative pathogen.

Fleming published his discovery in 1929 in the British Journal of Experimental Pathology, but little attention was paid to his article. Fleming continued his investigations, but found that cultivating penicillium was quite difficult, and that after having grown the mould, it was even more difficult to isolate the antibiotic agent. Fleming's impression was that because of the problem of producing it in quantity, and because its action appeared to be rather slow, penicillin would not be important in treating infection. Fleming also became convinced that penicillin would not last long enough in the human body (in vivo) to kill bacteria effectively. Many clinical tests were inconclusive, probably because it had been used as a surface antiseptic. In the 1930s, Fleming’s trials occasionally showed more promise,[4] and he continued, until 1940, to try and interest a chemist skilled enough to further refine usable penicillin.

However, Fleming soon abandoned penicillin, and not long after Florey and Chain took up researching and mass producing it with the funds of the U.S and British governments help. They started mass production after the bombing of Pearl Harbor. When D-day arrived they had made enough penicillin to treat all the wounded allied forces.

Purification to a stable form and industrial scale production

3D-model of benzylpenicillin.Ernst Chain worked out how to isolate and concentrate penicillin. He also correctly theorised the structure of penicillin. Shortly after the team published its first results in 1940, Fleming telephoned Howard Florey, Chain's head of department to say that he would be visiting within the next few days. When Chain heard that he was coming he remarked "Good God! I thought he was dead".

Norman Heatley suggested transferring the active ingredient of penicillin back into water by changing its acidity. This produced enough of the drug to begin testing on animals.

Sir Henry Harris said in 1998: "Without Fleming, no Chain; without Chain, no Florey; without Florey, no Heatley; without Heatley, no penicillin." There were many more people involved in the Oxford team, and at one point the entire Dunn School was involved in its production.

After the team had developed a method of purifying penicillin to an effective first stable form in 1940, several clinical trials ensued, and their amazing success inspired the team to develop methods for mass production and mass distribution in 1945.

Fleming was modest about his part in the development of penicillin, describing his fame as the "Fleming Myth" and he praised Florey and Chain for transforming the laboratory curiosity into a practical drug. Fleming was the first to isolate the active substance, giving him the privilege of naming it: penicillin. He also kept, grew and distributed the original mould for twelve years, and continued until 1940 to try to get help from any chemist that had enough skill to make a stable form of it for mass production. There were many failed attempts around Fleming towards stabilising the substance before Florey organized his large and very skilled biochemical research team in 1938 at Oxford to undertake the immense and innovative work that had to be done to produce a stable 'mass produce-able' penicillin.


E. coliFleming's accidental discovery and isolation of penicillin in September 1928 marks the start of modern antibiotics.

Fleming also discovered very early that bacteria developed antibiotic resistance whenever too little penicillin was used or when it was used for too short a period.

Almroth Wright had predicted the Antibiotic resistance even before it was noticed during experiments.

Fleming cautioned about the use of penicillin in his many speeches around the world. He cautioned not to use penicillin unless there was a properly diagnosed reason for it to be used, and that if it were used, never to use too little, or for too short a period, since these are the circumstances under which bacterial resistance to antibiotics develops.

The popular story[5] of Winston Churchill's father's paying for Fleming's education after Fleming's father saved young Winston from death is false. According to the biography, Penicillin Man: Alexander Fleming and the Antibiotic Revolution by Kevin Brown, Alexander Fleming, in a letter[6] to his friend and colleague Andre Gratia[7], described this as "a wondrous fable". Nor did he save Winston Churchill himself during WWII. Churchill was saved by Lord Moran, using sulphonamides, since he had no experience with penicillin, when Churchill fell ill in Carthage in Tunisia in 1943. The Daily Telegraph and the Morning Post on 21 December 1943 wrote that he had been saved by penicillin. He was saved by the new sulphonamide drug, sulphapyridine, known at the time under the research code M&B693, discovered and produced by May & Baker Ltd, Dagenham, Essex - a subsidiary of the French group Rhône-Poulenc. In a subsequent radio broadcast, Churchill referred to the new drug as "This admirable M&B" [8]

Billy P- Iconoclast

Billy Pilgrim Posted: Wed Jun 4 13:51:53 2008 Post | Quote in Reply  
  Sorry about all the before guff, just the bottom part needs a readin

jennemmer Posted: Thu Jun 5 00:36:11 2008 Post | Quote in Reply  
  My DBF has come to a temporary end... I've spent the last two days meeting up with various people and running errands all over the city... that's what happens when you are getting married in just over two days!!! :) :) :)

addi Posted: Thu Jun 5 06:31:36 2008 Post | Quote in Reply  
  jennemmer said:
>My DBF has come to a temporary end... I've spent the last two days meeting up with various people and running errands all over the city... that's what happens when you are getting married in just over two days!!! :) :) :)

The days right before getting hitched are usually really busy and stressful...I remember it was for me anyway. It will all soon be over, Jenn, and then you can relax and kick back on your honeymoon in the carribean (you are going on one I hope!)
Contratulations and make sure to come back and give us all the details (you can leave the bed hanky-panky out though)
: )

mat_j Posted: Thu Jun 5 07:37:53 2008 Post | Quote in Reply  
  addi said:
>Congratulations and make sure to come back and give us all the details (you can leave the bed hanky-panky out though)
>: )

So what essentially you're saying is, you want to hear about all the hanky panky she does outside the bedroom, like in the car, the plane, the golf course, the drive in theatre.... You're a classic kind of weirdo y'know.

Somebody get me my chasing out broom.

mat_j Posted: Thu Jun 5 07:40:39 2008 Post | Quote in Reply  
  Oh and where the heck do you keep getting all these pics of sweetp from?

addi Posted: Thu Jun 5 09:06:41 2008 Post | Quote in Reply  
  mat_j said:

>You're a classic kind of weirdo y'know.

I like the classic remark, but I'll have to think about the weirdo one a while.

addi Posted: Thu Jun 5 09:12:01 2008 Post | Quote in Reply  
  mat_j said:
>Oh and where the heck do you keep getting all these pics of sweetp from?

I stole them way back when. But they're all old now. I need new ones of her and ya'll now to add to my collection, just in case any of you become famous so I can sell them for lots of money...or use them as blackmail for *sexual favors and such.

*probably wouldn't ask for sexual favors from you though, unless times were really tough.

Mesh Posted: Thu Jun 5 21:14:31 2008 Post | Quote in Reply  
  Wisenheimer said:
>I'm having lots of fun for my birfday this weekend.
>You're all invited.
>Except for Mesh.

Well it might be postponed. Because, of course, it hasn't rained a drop for a few weeks now around here. Annnndddd of course, it's projected to be overcast with scattered thunderstorms where I was planning on going this weekend. Of-fucking-course.

Bitch ass weather.


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